Comments on: Upon Further Reflection http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/ My Place to Write, Share, and Remember Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:21:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Technology revolution or evolution? | Targuman http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48776 Technology revolution or evolution? | Targuman Sun, 19 Apr 2009 03:44:27 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48776 [...] as a revolution and “scholarship” in her blog Teachnology: After reading Cole’s most recent post, I went back and read the one prior to it for context. Taken together, I think they both make some [...] [...] as a revolution and “scholarship” in her blog Teachnology: After reading Cole’s most recent post, I went back and read the one prior to it for context. Taken together, I think they both make some [...]

]]> By: paul lowe http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48771 paul lowe Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:00:59 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48771 cole, if we didnt experiment and innovate, and risk glorious failure, then we would still all be teaching in victorian workhouses.. re your twitter use in the classroom: the backchannel for me has become the main interaction with my students especially online in webconferencing where the constant stream of comments, questions, weblinks etc etc in the text box that accompanies my presentations makes me know they are listening, interacting, interpreting and analysing what i am saying - and i do just the same at conferences, googling references, diggoing weblinks, twittering the conference etc etc - how can we not expect our students to be doing what we do ourselves! so keep on pushing at the edges, we have to have maybe 80% of what we do with technology (or any other pedagogy) as stable, reliable and conservative, but that leaves 20% for experimentation, exploration, innovation and lets be honest, play! cole, if we didnt experiment and innovate, and risk glorious failure, then we would still all be teaching in victorian workhouses..
re your twitter use in the classroom: the backchannel for me has become the main interaction with my students especially online in webconferencing where the constant stream of comments, questions, weblinks etc etc in the text box that accompanies my presentations makes me know they are listening, interacting, interpreting and analysing what i am saying – and i do just the same at conferences, googling references, diggoing weblinks, twittering the conference etc etc – how can we not expect our students to be doing what we do ourselves!
so keep on pushing at the edges, we have to have maybe 80% of what we do with technology (or any other pedagogy) as stable, reliable and conservative, but that leaves 20% for experimentation, exploration, innovation and lets be honest, play!

]]> By: Cole Camplese http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48769 Cole Camplese Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:36:04 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48769 <a href="#comment-48763" rel="nofollow">@ Colleen</a> Thank you for the kind words. The last two weeks have pushed me to think about how to walk up to the line, cross it, and then press people to talk about it -- from both sides of that line. What I am after are more opportunities to get the other crowd to at least join the discussion. <a href="#comment-48764" rel="nofollow">@ Stevie</a> I will stop by and read the second post this month! The comments in the CHE piece were fine and didn't honestly get me down. I am just really ready to see my own community in action this weekend at the Symposium. See you there! @ Colleen Thank you for the kind words. The last two weeks have pushed me to think about how to walk up to the line, cross it, and then press people to talk about it — from both sides of that line. What I am after are more opportunities to get the other crowd to at least join the discussion.

@ Stevie I will stop by and read the second post this month! The comments in the CHE piece were fine and didn’t honestly get me down. I am just really ready to see my own community in action this weekend at the Symposium. See you there!

]]> By: Cole Camplese http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48768 Cole Camplese Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:05:56 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48768 <a href="#comment-48765" rel="nofollow">@ Jim</a> The dude abides. EduPunk is not negative and I'm not saying that. I think my point is that I am committing to my own approach -- and the outcomes can then be what they are. But, you are right, that damn Jackie Treehorn! <a href="#comment-48766" rel="nofollow">@ D’Arcy Norman</a> Its not that I care so much on a persona level, I am deeply concerned about the overall state of education and I feel like I sit in an interesting place to impact it -- albeit on a very small and slow scale. If I get all cranky and stop doing what needs to be done then I am afraid change won't happen and I'll be on the people I end up loathing. I really do appreciate your comment ... risk almost always = reward ... and reward comes in many strange and unusual forms. @ Jim The dude abides. EduPunk is not negative and I’m not saying that. I think my point is that I am committing to my own approach — and the outcomes can then be what they are. But, you are right, that damn Jackie Treehorn!

@ D’Arcy Norman Its not that I care so much on a persona level, I am deeply concerned about the overall state of education and I feel like I sit in an interesting place to impact it — albeit on a very small and slow scale. If I get all cranky and stop doing what needs to be done then I am afraid change won’t happen and I’ll be on the people I end up loathing. I really do appreciate your comment … risk almost always = reward … and reward comes in many strange and unusual forms.

]]> By: D'Arcy Norman http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48766 D'Arcy Norman Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:01:57 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48766 who cares what anyone thinks? you're trying some stuff. some of it will work (for some people). some of it won't. you're trying, and that's all that matters. the fact that you're brave enough to try, and willing to take a (public) risk, speaks volumes. thanks for that. who cares what anyone thinks? you’re trying some stuff. some of it will work (for some people). some of it won’t. you’re trying, and that’s all that matters. the fact that you’re brave enough to try, and willing to take a (public) risk, speaks volumes. thanks for that.

]]> By: Jim http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48765 Jim Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:54:23 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48765 Why has the edupunk become a figure of negativity? All we wanted was retribution for our rug, man, it brought the room together. Don't blame EDUPUNK, blame Jackie Treehorn---he started all of this. Why has the edupunk become a figure of negativity? All we wanted was retribution for our rug, man, it brought the room together. Don’t blame EDUPUNK, blame Jackie Treehorn—he started all of this.

]]> By: Stevie http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48764 Stevie Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:23:25 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48764 After reading this post, I went back and read the last one for context. Taken together, I think they both make some really important points. I remember being rather angry at (and dismissive of, I'll admit) a lot of the comments that followed the Chronicle article. Your thoughts here connect pretty closely with some thinking I've been doing over the past few weeks, as well. It was going to be way too long for a comment, so instead it spurred my second blog post in a month. That has got to be some kind of record for me. Stop by and see if if you can. :) After reading this post, I went back and read the last one for context. Taken together, I think they both make some really important points. I remember being rather angry at (and dismissive of, I’ll admit) a lot of the comments that followed the Chronicle article.

Your thoughts here connect pretty closely with some thinking I’ve been doing over the past few weeks, as well. It was going to be way too long for a comment, so instead it spurred my second blog post in a month. That has got to be some kind of record for me. Stop by and see if if you can. :)

]]> By: Colleen http://www.colecamplese.com/2009/04/upon-further-reflection/comment-page-1/#comment-48763 Colleen Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:27:33 +0000 http://www.colecamplese.com/?p=1764#comment-48763 Thoughtful rewrite. I almost commented in last post, saying "I love the crazy ones, too - but they're only 2.5% of the 'diffusion of innovation' pie. The trick is to share energy and ideas with the innovators and bring the goods to those still passionate about the content, not the innovation. You do that better than almost anyone in HE, so ...don't be crabby. Keep crazy-making and we'll keep following. Thoughtful rewrite. I almost commented in last post, saying “I love the crazy ones, too – but they’re only 2.5% of the ‘diffusion of innovation’ pie. The trick is to share energy and ideas with the innovators and bring the goods to those still passionate about the content, not the innovation.
You do that better than almost anyone in HE, so …don’t be crabby. Keep crazy-making and we’ll keep following.

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